Comments on: Boy, what ISN’T destroying Ruby these days? http://ruby.tie-rack.org/52/boy-what-isnt-destroying-ruby-these-days/ Ruby.send(:stop, 'messing around') Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:33:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: markus http://ruby.tie-rack.org/52/boy-what-isnt-destroying-ruby-these-days/#comment-431 markus Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:56:05 +0000 http://ruby.tie-rack.org/52/boy-what-isnt-destroying-ruby-these-days/#comment-431 "monkey-patching" is an insulting term for one strategy one can use in ruby. I believe not everyone is capable of deciding what feature to use in ruby and which to not use. In Python you have guido deciding what you will need. In Ruby *gasp* you have to take your own brain cells to do this job! ;-) “monkey-patching” is an insulting term for one strategy one can use in ruby.

I believe not everyone is capable of deciding what feature to use in ruby and which to not use.

In Python you have guido deciding what you will need.

In Ruby *gasp* you have to take your own brain cells to do this job!

;-)

]]> By: Jordan Glasner http://ruby.tie-rack.org/52/boy-what-isnt-destroying-ruby-these-days/#comment-423 Jordan Glasner Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:14:28 +0000 http://ruby.tie-rack.org/52/boy-what-isnt-destroying-ruby-these-days/#comment-423 Ha, thanks Chris. Exactly what I was thinking :) Ha, thanks Chris. Exactly what I was thinking :)

]]> By: Chris http://ruby.tie-rack.org/52/boy-what-isnt-destroying-ruby-these-days/#comment-420 Chris Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:43:45 +0000 http://ruby.tie-rack.org/52/boy-what-isnt-destroying-ruby-these-days/#comment-420 Maybe another thing destroying Ruby is the inability of Rubyists to read sarcasm in criticism of Ruby. ;) Maybe another thing destroying Ruby is the inability of Rubyists to read sarcasm in criticism of Ruby. ;)

]]> By: E. James O'Kelly http://ruby.tie-rack.org/52/boy-what-isnt-destroying-ruby-these-days/#comment-419 E. James O'Kelly Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:52:11 +0000 http://ruby.tie-rack.org/52/boy-what-isnt-destroying-ruby-these-days/#comment-419 Funny, most of what you listed I see as strengths. Monkey-patching? Obviously you haven't been forced to wait for vendor updates to a closed language. Cleverness? It's what gets me up in the morning. No one true way? A bit fascist aren't we? Freedom is good. YARV, JRuby, etc... Competition did well for evolution, it does well for language as well. As far as slowness.... easily overcome by using YARV, Rubinus, etc. Personally I wish it was faster, but I still find no NEED for any of the alternate implementations, Matz Ruby is fine with me. Most of us don't get twitter traffic. Funny, most of what you listed I see as strengths. Monkey-patching? Obviously you haven’t been forced to wait for vendor updates to a closed language. Cleverness? It’s what gets me up in the morning. No one true way? A bit fascist aren’t we? Freedom is good. YARV, JRuby, etc… Competition did well for evolution, it does well for language as well.

As far as slowness…. easily overcome by using YARV, Rubinus, etc. Personally I wish it was faster, but I still find no NEED for any of the alternate implementations, Matz Ruby is fine with me. Most of us don’t get twitter traffic.

]]> By: Sidu http://ruby.tie-rack.org/52/boy-what-isnt-destroying-ruby-these-days/#comment-418 Sidu Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:05:26 +0000 http://ruby.tie-rack.org/52/boy-what-isnt-destroying-ruby-these-days/#comment-418 Much of what is listed is true, but some of these points are outdated. Among the outdated bits are: MRI/YARV/Rubinius/JRuby/XRuby, or 'The Impending Ruby Fracture' was written over a year and a half ago and none of David's fears predicted has come to pass. JRuby, Rubinius and IronRUby all strive to remain true to CRuby and Ruby 1.9 is out (though every one isn't that happy with it). Slowness: I've been running trunk builds of JRuby (we're currently at 1.1 RC1 I think) and it is WAY faster than CRuby. At least 100% faster and often 200 to 500% faster. Ruby 1.9 is pretty good too. I tested one aspect (block invocation) here http://blog.sidu.in/2008/01/ruby-blocks-redux-ruby-190-ruby-186-and.html and the numbers are very interesting. Much of what is listed is true, but some of these points are outdated. Among the outdated bits are:
MRI/YARV/Rubinius/JRuby/XRuby, or ‘The Impending Ruby Fracture’ was written over a year and a half ago and none of David’s fears predicted has come to pass.
JRuby, Rubinius and IronRUby all strive to remain true to CRuby and Ruby 1.9 is out (though every one isn’t that happy with it).

Slowness: I’ve been running trunk builds of JRuby (we’re currently at 1.1 RC1 I think) and it is WAY faster than CRuby. At least 100% faster and often 200 to 500% faster. Ruby 1.9 is pretty good too. I tested one aspect (block invocation) here http://blog.sidu.in/2008/01/ruby-blocks-redux-ruby-190-ruby-186-and.html and the numbers are very interesting.

]]> By: Devender http://ruby.tie-rack.org/52/boy-what-isnt-destroying-ruby-these-days/#comment-417 Devender Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:19:04 +0000 http://ruby.tie-rack.org/52/boy-what-isnt-destroying-ruby-these-days/#comment-417 I hope nothing kills Ruby, I love the language though I have experimented with other like Erlang and Python I keep going back to Ruby for doing everything. I hope nothing kills Ruby, I love the language though I have experimented with other like Erlang and Python I keep going back to Ruby for doing everything.

]]> By: James Britt http://ruby.tie-rack.org/52/boy-what-isnt-destroying-ruby-these-days/#comment-416 James Britt Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:30:42 +0000 http://ruby.tie-rack.org/52/boy-what-isnt-destroying-ruby-these-days/#comment-416 No sense of history No sense of history

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